379 Tasting Notes

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Thanks, Cameron B. :D Only a couple more of yours to go. What a beautiful sample box you sent me. I got to try all kinds of goodies from all kinds of vendors I’ve never experienced.

It’s almost midnight here so I skipped the gongfu and put 3.3g in 10 oz boiling water, let it steep for 4 minutes. Easy peasy. It was malty, good flavor with notes of caramelized sugar, raisins, brown sugar, dark cocoa notes. No faults in it, it’s a very smooth black tea. I just usually like my black tea bolder, maltier, breadier than this one. On a positive note, of the ones I got to try, A&D does seem to have good tea. :D

Flavors: Brown Sugar, Dark Chocolate, Malt

Preparation
Boiling 4 min, 0 sec 3 g 10 OZ / 295 ML

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Thanks, Derk :D.

I often make ochazuke (Pour green tea over rice, add seasonings and toppings) on a cold afternoon, and I constantly thought of that while sipping this tea because it’s so flavorful.

The dry leaves had a sweet, vegetal aroma. After the rinse, the wet leaves had an intense vegetal – soybean aroma. The first few infusions, it was a thick, comforting, extremely vegetal, brothy, savory soup. Throughout the infusions, lots of different notes entered the picture: edamame, spring peas, umami, broccoli, spinach, seaweed, bamboo, sweet grass, cream, butter, sugarcane, roasted chestnuts, and honey notes. It had light mineral notes and some wood. Throughout the infusions, there was slight astringency but like the bitterness, it was balanced.

This tea embodies what is so great about Laoshan green. It is creamy, has a buttery smooth texture, has a plethora of complex and potent flavors and aroma that I just know I missed hehe. Vegetal, sweet, savory, soy, mineral and the umami flavor that lingered in my mouth long after each infusion. Derk had written on the sample that it was past it’s prime but it was so good that I’ll definitely go for this coming year’s release to compare.

Porcelain gaiwan, 5g, 175°F, 110ml, rinse, 11 steeps: 5s, 10s, 15s, 20s, 25s, 35s, 45s, 55s, 65s, 75s, 120s

Flavors: Asparagus, Bamboo, Broccoli, Broth, Butter, Chestnut, Creamy, Grass, Honey, Mineral, Peas, Seaweed, Soybean, Spinach, Umami, Vegetal, Wood

Preparation
175 °F / 79 °C 0 min, 15 sec 6 g 4 OZ / 110 ML
Cameron B.

That sounds delicious – what kinds of toppings do you add? ❤

Kawaii433

Umeboshi is one of my all-time favorite flavors. I always put one plum in the center of my riceballs when I make those too.

Kawaii433

The packets say to add hot water, use green tea instead for Ochazuke :D.

Cameron B.

I love umeboshi too, especially with rice. Unfortunately, I don’t think I have any right now…

But I may have to try this for dinner anyway and just wing it LOL!

Kawaii433

lol ooh and if you have any furikake, you can just put the hot green tea over fresh rice, and top it off with that instead. Here is one of my favorites: https://www.amazon.com/Jfc-International-Seasoning-Furikake-1-7/dp/B0006G5KEY?th=1

Cameron B.

I actually do, and I think it might be that exact one… ;)

Kawaii433

Then you’re all set. Enjoy! hehe

Cameron B.

I ended up having brown rice with genmaicha, and added some soy sauce, furikake, and smoked tuna! Plus a drizzle of sesame oil. ❤

Kawaii433

That sounds good, close enough. Rice with green tea = yummy instant and wonderful soup!

derk

I just made some bamboo rice and topped a bowl of it with a mug of this tea. Added some salt. Good green tea and rice soup. I can really taste that anise that LuckyMe noted when prepared this way.

Mastress Alita

I tried making ochazuke once, but I don’t like “mushy” food textures and found the texture of it was too “mushy” for my tastes (I can’t handle say, oatmeal or porridge). I do however like to lightly flavor my Minute Rice by using tea as the “water” the rice soaks up. Then the rice is still “fluffy/solid” but takes on a slight flavor from the tea it absorbed.

Kawaii433

Mastress Alita – Yes! I do that do in my rice cooker hehe. Instead of water sometimes, I’ll use green tea especially if the tea is past it’s prime. For ochazuke, I add so much green tea that it’s like rice soup.

I also make milk kefir at home (for 8+ years now), and I use the whey for making rice to make it more digestible or I use the whey for a “soak”. If any of you ever want to try making milk kefir, I have tons of kefir grains. Just PM me. (I seriously digressed!).

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Thank you, Derk :D

Cute little compact square, ~8g. The dry square wasn’t too aromatic, a very light orange aroma, no barnyard aroma or any other fermentation aroma. The rinse liquor was light amber. The wet square had earth and citrus/orange aroma. It was still pretty much in square form after the first four infusions… And even though 3/4 of the brick was pretty much intact, the liquor had gone from light to dark orange amber color. The infusions from the beginning albeit light had really flavorful citrus notes, clean earth, some wood, and citrus rind. After my 7th infusion, it is still ~60% formed lol and this is when the earthy notes peaked. After that, the citrus flavors incrementally went to the forefront… The tangerine, mandarin orange, citrus notes. It was smooth, no astringency nor bitterness. The only changes were earthy notes versus the citrus notes and the orange notes became more distinct as I went.

While it wasn’t a complex tea, I really enjoyed it. I still prefer TeaVivre Aged Chenpi Ripened Tangerine Pu-erh but these would be great to put in my little tin can which consists of a variety of mini tuochas, and mini cakes when I want something convenient.

Porcelain gaiwan, 8g, 205°F to boiling, 110ml, rinse, 11 steeps: 5s, 10s, 15s, 20s, 25s, 35s, 45s, 55s, 65s, 75s, 120s.

Flavors: Earth, Orange, Orange Zest

Preparation
Boiling 8 g 4 OZ / 110 ML
derk

The first time I brewed this was in a gaiwan. The square took so long to open up despite letting it sit after the rinse that I became frustrated and moved on to something else. I decided to go grandpa the next time and it turned out really well. Easy drinker.

Kawaii433

kk I ordered a couple of Grandpas from White2Tea (hasn’t arrived yet), I’m glad I did because you wrote grandpa on there too. I’ll try grandpa next time. Thanks!

derk

I’m confused. You ordered Grandpa’s and Channel Orange? I’ve been wanting to try Grandpa’s. Silly me forgot to throw one in on my last order.

Kawaii433

I ordered Grandpa’s but on your sample you gave me, you wrote “2015 Channel Orange” and underneath you wrote “grandpa”. I think they are the same thing, just changed names? Or maybe you were telling me to use grandpa style?

Kawaii433

Here is the exact note: White2Tea Channel Orange said Grandpa.

Kawaii433

ooh good grandpa (lololol)

Kawaii433

Ok, after misunderstanding what was written on your sample (said vs good). I read White2Tea Grandpa’s description, and am still glad I ordered it. I’ll probably buy the Channel Orange next time. I liked it. Thanks again!

derk

lol, whoops. Hope you like the Grandpa’s!

Kawaii433

I’ll let you know especially since you have been wanting to try it. Every time I read this thread, I LOL. The realization that “said” was “good”, what a difference a little word can make. :D

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Watching SuperBowl 2019 and had a gongfu session. Nice way to stay relaxed during a tense time lol.

The first time I tried this, I really liked it but the notes were on the light side. It was a busy day, and I had brewed it Western style, as per the suggestions. At the time, I felt it didn’t do it justice. Tonight I went gongfu style, and I prefer it this way. Very creamy, rich, decadent, malty, with strong cherry-chocolate notes. The first couple of infusions were of dark cocoa, but as I progressed I got more and more fruit, cherry-chocolate, some caramel notes, a hint of licorice, vanilla and cinnamon spices. Remained creamy till the end.

7g, 205°F, 110ml, rinse, 10 steeps: 10s, 15s, 20s, 25s, 30s, 35s, 40s, 45s, 50s, 55s

P.S. The team I was rooting for… Didn’t win. lol

Flavors: Cherry, Chocolate, Cinnamon, Cocoa, Dark Bittersweet, Dark Chocolate, Licorice, Malt, Spices, Sweet, Vanilla

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 0 min, 15 sec 7 g 4 OZ / 110 ML

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Happy Chinese New Year all. :D

Classic aromas, classic taste. Interesting name. I like it lol.

It has a super dark liquor, thick and almost looks like black syrup. The taste though was surprisingly mellow although rich, full-bodied. I was apprehensive at first looking at it. It’s smooth, earthy, mushrooms, little sweetness, typical fermentation notes, light leather. No fishiness, no bitterness. Lots of flavor throughout, no serious change in notes from steep to steep, just steady and pleasant… But am stopping here, for now, it’s 2 a.m. hehe

Daily drinker.

Yixing gaiwan, mini tuocha, 212°F, 110ml, rinsed twice, 6 steeps: 5s, 10s, 15s, 20s, 25s, 35s

Thank you Derk! :D

Flavors: Earth, Leather, Mushrooms, Smooth, Sweet, Wet Earth

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 4 OZ / 110 ML

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First A&D tea! Thank you Cameron B. :D

The dark leaves had brassy orange-ish-gold tips. The first couple of infusions had quite a bit of smoke, campfire as someone accurately said in another review. I got very little malt flavor at this point and became slightly dry, different spice notes like pepper and cinnamon. In later infusions, I got some malty sweet notes, slight sweetness in the finish. The more infusions, the more malt came out, some cocoa notes. I’m thinking that this would be better as A&D suggested, a long steep like 5 minutes vs Gongfu style.

I don’t know how pricey or whether it’s inexpensive but I would classify this as a good daily drinker type if it’s not expensive.

Porcelain gaiwan, 4g, 212°F, 110ml, rinse, 8 steeps: 10s, 20s, 30s, 45s, 55s, 65s, 75s, 120s

Flavors: Black Pepper, Campfire, Cinnamon, Cocoa, Malt, Pepper, Smoke, Spices, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 4 g 4 OZ / 110 ML
tea-sipper

I almost had this one today… also from Cameron B. :D

Kawaii433

hehe Since we’re talking A&D, what is your favorite tea from there? ^^

Cameron B.

I still haven’t tried this one… I should really rectify that.

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Well, you know that Mandala glass Thermos I just bought a reviewed a few weeks ago? I already broke it. Um, yeah. It fell to an ugly death. I’m wondering when my new Lupicia mug will join it. lol On a good note, I have never broken a teapot or gaiwan but that’s mainly because it remains on my tray. Thank goodness :). Sigh.

Tons of reviews on this. My two cents: The dry leaves were pretty with twisted black strips and golden tips. It had the aroma of hay. After the rinse, the liquor had a strong sweet potatoes aroma. The liquor was a very bright orange-reddish color. The first infusion I got notes of cocoa, caramel, sweet potatoes, honey, baked bread. The second infusion there were cream notes and floral notes, almost perfumey but not quite. It still had the notes from the first infusion, just more floral. That aroma also was more floral too, less sweet potatoes. The third infusion was a little astringent, more honey sweetness, not as floral. Dried fruit notes became more pronounced in the later infusions. Throughout the infusions, it was sweet, malty, smooth, toasty, with caramel, sweet potatoes, and cream notes. The flavor was relatively rich and satisfying. No bitterness in any of the infusions. Subtle and sweet aftertaste, soft mouthfeel. It gave me good energy… Let’s see what else I’ll break running around. o.O

I didn’t go with the recommended parameters. I opted for a longer steep time this time around.

Porcelain gaiwan, 7g, 200°F, 110ml, rinse, 7 steeps: 25s, 35s, 45s, 55s, 65s, 75s, 120s

Flavors: Bread, Burnt Sugar, Caramel, Cocoa, Cream, Dried Fruit, Floral, Honey, Malt, Raisins, Sweet Potatoes, Toasty

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 30 sec 7 g 4 OZ / 110 ML
Evol Ving Ness

Boo for your broken thermos! I use these quite happily, but I use them mostly as infusers, not carry mugs. I would recommend them. The inside is glass and the outside is plastic, so it is a win that way. https://shop2usd.libretea.com/products/glass-water-bottle

Kawaii433

Oh thank you Evol Ving Ness :D… And it’s pretty too!

Kawaii433

I like the Garden Dance pink (I feel like such a girly girl but it’s so pretty).

Evol Ving Ness

I have the silver, black, pink, and green ones. All large and all without handles. Pretty durable. Great customer service. However, I can’t speak to using it as a carry mug. Also, it doesn’t retain heat as well as my other things which I use throughout the day.

Evol Ving Ness

And they are pretty, imho.

Evol Ving Ness

Great for grandpa steeping at home too.

Kawaii433

When I travel, I have the Zojirushi stainless steel mugs. They keep it hot (too hot lol) for 12+ hours. I prefer a glass one for home because it cools down quicker so I can sip throughout the day :D. Thank you again!

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Thank you Cameron B. :D for today’s daily sipper choice.

At first, I was apprehensive trying this tea. I only like mint if it’s mild… This is subtle and it’s well balanced with the other ingredients. It’s creamy, slightly minty, with a spearmint taste more than peppermint, only because it has a less cooling effect and because of that, it melds really well with the other ingredients so one ingredient isn’t standing out. It’s not strong like Wrigley’s Spearmint Gum (thank goodness). I also feel and taste a little spice, like black pepper or something which really makes it interesting. It’s slightly sweet, I can’t really taste the vanilla. It was a nice surprise.

Flavors: Anise, Creamy, Mint, Pepper, Smooth, Spearmint

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 3 min, 0 sec 4 g 12 OZ / 354 ML

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90

Thank you, Derk, for this sample. :D It gave me an opportunity to compare it with the other two What-Cha GABA Oolongs. I really wanted to do this! Already great reviews on this so I’ll add a little, then move on to other thoughts.

So this is the same as their Taiwan GABA oolong but with an added: “medium roast to bring out the sweetness in the tea”. It did indeed seem sweeter than the zero roasted one. It also had a nice light roasted flavor, not overwhelming nor overshadowing the fruit and vanilla notes. It had a clean finish, distinct notes of apple and pear. In the later infusions, it became slightly more minerally, less roasted flavor, and got a few spice notes in addition to the fruit. Overall, it was an excellent GABA oolong.

I had a lot of fun trying to compare the three. I’ve come to the conclusion that I still prefer the Vietnam GABA High Mountain Oolong. Mainly because the cultivar is Jin Xuan versus Si Ji Chun. The Vietnam GABA had milky feel vs a clean feel, it had a longer finish vs a clean finish. I also like the baked bread, buttery, black tea-ish notes in the Vietnam GABA. To me, there was a larger spectrum of fruit notes and was a little richer too.

So there you have it. All were excellent. Thank you again, Derk!

5g, 205°F, 110ml, rinse, 11 steeps: 10s, 15s, 20s, 25s, 30s, 35s, 45s, 55s, 65s, 75s, 120s

Flavors: Apple, Burnt Sugar, Floral, Fruity, Nutmeg, Pear, Smooth, Spices, Sweet, Vanilla

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 4 OZ / 110 ML

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80

Additional notes on this one:
Got my smell and taste abilities back. Not sure 100% but I’m much better today. Only lasted 3 days or so. I rarely get a cold/flu. Maybe once every other year but this is the second time in the last month or so. It must be a bad year cold-flu wise…

So last time I tried this I used 5g and thought maybe I needed to add more to get the rich full taste of it. Even at 7g (gongfu cha with roughly the same parameters as the first time), I didn’t get want I was hoping for. I think their Medium Roast Da Hong Pao is far better. This is a sipdown by the way. I’ll try the Medium Roast again soon.

Additional note: 7g in 12 oz for 5+ minutes was best I think for this tea. One more thing (I keep adding, sorry lol)… Preparing it this way, it was more floral (that part I didn’t like).

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 0 min, 15 sec 7 g 4 OZ / 110 ML

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Longtime casual tea drinker. In the past, mainly Matcha, Gyokuro, Sencha, Genmaicha… Etc. I like all teas: Green, oolong, black & pu’erh (prefer ripe over raw).

Chanoyu (for matcha prep) and Gongfu cha (for other types of tea) are the main ways I prepare my tea (Gaiwan, Yixing teapot, Kyusu). I drink all tea… Usually unflavored. This past year, I’ve tried many flavored now because of all of you lol. As long as there aren’t artificial sweeteners, it’s all good.

Favorite stores: TeaVivre, What-Cha, Mandala Tea, 52Teas, Whispering Pines, Bird & Blend, Yunnan sourcing, White2Tea, Lupicia.

The flavors I dislike: Artificial sweetener, lavender, violet, any strong floral-perfumey tea; cantaloupe, papaya, honeydew, rose, licorice, anise, jasmine, any mints, leather.

Favorite flavors: Citrus fruits (especially grapefruit & tangerines), granny smith apple, bananas, guava, mango, tamarind, watermelon, stonefruits, chocolate, caramel, vanilla, milk, cinnamon, creme, bread/pastry, nuts, toasted, roasted.

I generally don’t add anything to my teas unless they are flavored, then I may add a splash of milk.

As I explore, my ratings may shift. 90+ generally means I’ll keep it on my shelf.

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