The dry leaf is lovely. Intense black mahogany flecked with gold leaf here and there.

As soon as the water hit the leaf and the cocoa honey scent rose, I knew I was going to love this smooth malty blend. And I do.

So pleased that I ordered directly from H & S after the Canadian distributor disaster.

I do have one irritant to share though. My order was a substantial one. If a Canadian is going to pay the hefty exchange rate and the generous shipping fee and risk getting dinged with more charges at the border, he or she is usually going to make it count.

With my order came one teabag sample. What, really?! My first order with your company, and it’s a big one, and you send one teabag as a hello how are you thanks for coming?

Have I done something to offend you?

I am grateful for that one teabag, but gosh, really, you could do better.

Cameron B.

I think I generally get two wrapped teabags from them?

Evol Ving Ness

Thanks, Cameron. I was feeling ticked off about this. I know postal fees are expensive and not the fault of the tea company. Americans get free shipping with a minimum purchase of whatever while Canadians and others pay $25 US plus in shipping plus the other charges mentioned. You’d think the company would realize and recognize this discrepancy in some small way that doesn’t affect them too much.

Evol Ving Ness

I know that that is the deal and the buyer makes the choice to purchase or not, but yanno.

ashmanra

Unless it just changed, Americans get free shipping period. No minimum. But with rising costs they may have altered that.

Evol Ving Ness

Yes, I just checked. Free domestic shipping in the US, so it doesn’t matter if you buy one tin or twelve. And it is the same or similar with other tea companies there. In Canada, there’s a free shipping threshold for our companies. Something like $60 or so.

It just got to me today and I needed to vent.

Evol Ving Ness

Are you feeling better today, ashmanra?

ashmanra

Not yet, Evol! Soon, soon. I got the shot at 5 pm and it was super quick and didn’t hurt. By a few hours later it felt like my arm was made of lead. Then headache and body aches by noon. Have dozed and read, hoping tomorrow morning I will be back to normal.

ashmanra

Years ago, Harney did have a free shipping threshold. I think it was $40.

mrmopar

CA is painful to ship to. Stuff I have sold across the border is $$$. Man only one sample. I normally do 3 per package and enough for a couple of sessions.

Evol Ving Ness

Sorry to hear that, ashmanra. Sounds like you are treating yourself with care in all this.

I realize that shipping here from the States is costly, and potentially a pain, compared to your domestic post. Still, the customer pays for that on top of the tea and currency exchange rate and possibly duties at customs. it seems to me that a bit of appreciation to foreign clientele who still choose to shop with you, despite these impediments via heavy fees on top of your products, is not too much to ask.

I mean, if someone is spending well over a hundred dollars on your products, is a free 25 gram sample pouch or two or a sample few teabags really an imposition?

Small independent, and even most large, tea businesses manage to do this without a huge sacrifice. ( I think the range of three is standard, teabags or small pouches, as you say. )

Needed to vent, apparently.

Even more so, as the USA is supposed to be known for customer service. I realize that the country is so large that there are enough American customers that you may not need international buyers, so there’s that. But still.

No doubt, I enjoy many of H & S’s products, but when it comes to placing orders, I am well aware of which tea businesses make me feel valued and appreciated.

Evol Ving Ness

Wow, that’s a lot of venting :)

ashmanra

Ha ha! I don’t blame you for the vent! It would be really nice if big orders got extra samples, or maybe an extra nice tea! They should have a sample generator….if customer buys (X) they get a sample of (Y) cuz they might like it! I get Organic English Breakfast over and over and I really dislike that one.

Leafhopper

I try to avoid ordering from the U.S. because of the exorbitant shipping cost, even though it’s not the vendors’ fault. And yes, one teabag is pretty stingy as a sample. I appreciate companies that offer generous and/or curated samples (What-Cha is great at this and does seem to change the number of samples given based on the order size).

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Cameron B.

I think I generally get two wrapped teabags from them?

Evol Ving Ness

Thanks, Cameron. I was feeling ticked off about this. I know postal fees are expensive and not the fault of the tea company. Americans get free shipping with a minimum purchase of whatever while Canadians and others pay $25 US plus in shipping plus the other charges mentioned. You’d think the company would realize and recognize this discrepancy in some small way that doesn’t affect them too much.

Evol Ving Ness

I know that that is the deal and the buyer makes the choice to purchase or not, but yanno.

ashmanra

Unless it just changed, Americans get free shipping period. No minimum. But with rising costs they may have altered that.

Evol Ving Ness

Yes, I just checked. Free domestic shipping in the US, so it doesn’t matter if you buy one tin or twelve. And it is the same or similar with other tea companies there. In Canada, there’s a free shipping threshold for our companies. Something like $60 or so.

It just got to me today and I needed to vent.

Evol Ving Ness

Are you feeling better today, ashmanra?

ashmanra

Not yet, Evol! Soon, soon. I got the shot at 5 pm and it was super quick and didn’t hurt. By a few hours later it felt like my arm was made of lead. Then headache and body aches by noon. Have dozed and read, hoping tomorrow morning I will be back to normal.

ashmanra

Years ago, Harney did have a free shipping threshold. I think it was $40.

mrmopar

CA is painful to ship to. Stuff I have sold across the border is $$$. Man only one sample. I normally do 3 per package and enough for a couple of sessions.

Evol Ving Ness

Sorry to hear that, ashmanra. Sounds like you are treating yourself with care in all this.

I realize that shipping here from the States is costly, and potentially a pain, compared to your domestic post. Still, the customer pays for that on top of the tea and currency exchange rate and possibly duties at customs. it seems to me that a bit of appreciation to foreign clientele who still choose to shop with you, despite these impediments via heavy fees on top of your products, is not too much to ask.

I mean, if someone is spending well over a hundred dollars on your products, is a free 25 gram sample pouch or two or a sample few teabags really an imposition?

Small independent, and even most large, tea businesses manage to do this without a huge sacrifice. ( I think the range of three is standard, teabags or small pouches, as you say. )

Needed to vent, apparently.

Even more so, as the USA is supposed to be known for customer service. I realize that the country is so large that there are enough American customers that you may not need international buyers, so there’s that. But still.

No doubt, I enjoy many of H & S’s products, but when it comes to placing orders, I am well aware of which tea businesses make me feel valued and appreciated.

Evol Ving Ness

Wow, that’s a lot of venting :)

ashmanra

Ha ha! I don’t blame you for the vent! It would be really nice if big orders got extra samples, or maybe an extra nice tea! They should have a sample generator….if customer buys (X) they get a sample of (Y) cuz they might like it! I get Organic English Breakfast over and over and I really dislike that one.

Leafhopper

I try to avoid ordering from the U.S. because of the exorbitant shipping cost, even though it’s not the vendors’ fault. And yes, one teabag is pretty stingy as a sample. I appreciate companies that offer generous and/or curated samples (What-Cha is great at this and does seem to change the number of samples given based on the order size).

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A monk sips morning tea

A monk sips morning tea,
it’s quiet,
the chrysanthemum’s flowering.

- Basho

(1644-1694)

Note to self—-you do not actually need any more tea.

My real tea obsession began in February 2015.

Not, sadly, when I had been living and working in China, though I very much enjoyed sampling a variety of teas during my travels there as well. No, no, that would have been far too sensible.

I am a reformed coffee drinker. I still enjoy a long double espresso with a good quantity or milk or cream from time to time, but for now, tea is my thing. All day.

*note—this is way out of date, so if we are doing a swap and you are checking to see what I like and dislike, mostly never mind what you find below. One of these days, I will update this. In the meantime, check what I’ve been drinking and use your own judgement. I like all the teas. Well, I am open to trying all the teas.

I tend to drink black, green, or oolong tea in the morning to early afternoon. Rooibos or
Honeybush or herbal in the evening. And perhaps some sort of sleepy-type tea in the wee hours.

This year, I’ve been discovering flavoured teas, so it may look like that is all I drink although that would provide a false impression.

Not a big fan of chocolate or mint in teas, but I will try them and, from time to time, have been pleasantly surprised. Also, usually I dislike a prominent cinnamon flavour, if untempered with other things, in teas. Again, I say usually, because there are exceptions.

Also, please note that haven’t quite gotten into the habit of updating my tea cupboard on Steepster, and it is unlikely that I will do this on any kind of regular basis.

I drink my tea black and unsweetened. If there comes a rare moment that I add something to it, I will mention it.

Finally, while I thank large and successful tea companies for tantalizing and beckoning me to the world of tea, I prefer to support independent ventures with real people, real enthusiasm and commitment, and real dreams.

Currently, I am researching monthly tea subscriptions. Perhaps it will keep me out of tea shops.

And here is Shae’s rating scale— which I am using with permission, of course— which more or less describes the way I have been rating teas. I am going to make more of an effort to stay very close to these parameters now.

Rating Scale

1-20: By far, one of the worst teas I’ve tasted. I most certainly will not finish my cup and will likely “gift” the rest to my sweet husband who almost always enjoys the teas I dislike (and vice versa).

21-40: This tea is not good but if I mix it with another tea or find another steeping method I might be able to finish it.

41-60: This one is just okay. I might drink it again if someone were to give it to me, but I probably won’t be buying more for myself.

61-75: This is a consistently good tea. It’s reliable but not necessarily special.

76-90: This one is a notch above the rest and I would gladly enjoy a cup of it any day of the week. I’ll likely be keeping this in my cupboard, but it isn’t one of my all-time favorites.

91-95: One small change and this tea would be perfect. I’ll definitely have a stash of this in my kitchen if you come over for tea.

96-100: No words can describe this tea. It’s an experience, an aha moment. Closed eyes, wide smile, encompassing warmth. Absolutely incredible. Perfect.

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