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Been thinking about picking up some of these.

Anyone have http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pu-er-Raw-Tea-Lao-Man-E-LaoShuBanZhang-Old-Tree-Ban-Zhang-Sheng-Cha-400g/32220909278.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.115.hrBjM1&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201602_3_10017_10005_10006_10034_10021_507_10022_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_9&btsid=ac405d07-3a64-4c54-95f9-2eaa027bbc3c or this one http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pu-er-raw-tea-2014-Lao-Man-E-LaoShuBanZhang-Old-Arbor-Ban-Zhang-Sheng-tea-400g/32220498073.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.200.hrBjM1&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201602_3_10017_10005_10006_10034_10021_507_10022_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_9&btsid=ac405d07-3a64-4c54-95f9-2eaa027bbc3c for me to try? Wish King Tea had samples

The Lao Man’E will have a much more pronounced bitter note to it. I would stick to people that have the ‘Real’ stuff. There is so much forgery and demand for LBZ that it is readily faked by many companies. It may have 2% LBZ and they market it as such. Buy from where you trust.

The one you link above may not actually be LBZ it may be Lao Man E Lao Ban Zhang Tea Company which is the name of a tea company that King Tea sells.

This one from Mengku is legit via Yunnan Sourcing though right?

Yeah Scott has the legit stuff. If you noticed he hasn’t restocked any in a while because of the issues above. That and Chen Shen Hao locked up about 90% of the mountains production driving the pricing way up. Ruined the mountain in my opinion.

What year did he ruin the mountain?

Here is a real LBZ from King Tea. It is a bit pricy though.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-shipping-Puer-raw-tea-2008-CHEN-SHENG-HAO-Lao-Ban-Zhang-MOUSE-CAKE-sheng-tea/1220054_2028753195.html

So I should buy this ASAP because of the price? http://teaurchin.com/chen-sheng-yi-hao-2010-spring.html

If you notice that is a blend of Banzhang and Bulang material, I’d be surprised if it was more than 10% Banzhang.

There is always this although who knows if it is real.I do know the company is legit.
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=289

Hmmm…. I would 4 way split that cake. Maybe even splitting this http://store.thechineseteashop.com/2013_100_Lao_Ban_Zhang_Collector_Edition_p/pugc-13-lbz.htm

I think it was 2010. The one from TU only has 10% LBZ in it.

If the Awazon people collected the leaves in 2006 that could account for the low price. In 2006 LBZ was not yet expensive. I have not generally seen Awazon raise prices because they could so maybe it is real.

Pretty much anything labeled lbz is either an outright lie, very small part of the blend or probably the worst maocha from there. The real and good stuff ranges from a thousand to thousands usd a kilo. The same goes for almost all other famous regions except their yield is so small that it never actually makes it to market. Like bingdao, unless you have a crazy connect or get lucky to know someone that has the real thing youll probably never get a chance to drink it, there is that little of the real thing, maybe a few hundred cakes pressed a year. All of those are spoken for long before anything is sold publicly

LP have you tried the 2006 version of LBZ? Whenever I sip this sort of tea I only use around 60-70% of the usual amount of leaves.

If someone has “buyer’s remorse” with YQH they can send it right to me – I will give it a loving home right up until it goes down my neck and I will savor every drop.

I know of at least four people, but that only surfaced after I made a remark; seemed like they didn’t want to because nobody is making those comments.

Well bless their hearts. Teji is my favorite thing right now.

I’m sorry but “do all they can to make it taste better than it is because of the price tag” is pretty insulting. Why would I even want make stuff up? I’ve spent countless hours talking to people, reviewing and discussing these teas not to spread misinformation but to educate myself and other on what they are all about. On top of that I sampled up nearly half a cake out of pocket the last few months to people that asked about trying certain cakes.

Also to label the whole brand as overpriced, hyped or whatever is shortsighted. You have 3 reviews posted here on steepster, maybe you tried more Idk but there were 39 different teas being offered by Mr Yang and Emmett. Imagine trying 3 teas from any vendor, not loving them and then saying well they all must suck cause these did, seems a bit silly no?

You and others didn’t like them? That’s cool, there are plenty of teas I don’t like that lots of people love. I respect their opinion and they respect mine, like Cwyn said in her blog post, no one can tell you what tastes best to your taste buds.

I don’t want to make it sound like you attacked me personally cause you didn’t. Just like you said you speak for people with buyers remorse, I believe I speak for the people that are very happy with how they spent their money.

Me three. Love YQH , haven’t tried all of them but whatever I’ve tried was top notch.

@Grill it actually isn’t insulting because if you read it in context it is in regards to those who experience buyers remorse. In regards to the amount I’ve tried; that’s the way things are realistically as I give a band 3 songs or a tv show 3 episodes before I decide to give more time to it (which is what money is)

There is just no way I’ll find an old leather taste to be appealing, but I’m always up to keep trying which is what I have been doing. I am the same with White2Tea: I’ve tried over 12 of their raw teas and I’ve only liked one…

Thought about the English language and realized that you could say that my comment could have offended you… but it wouldn’t be me who did it but rather those I have spoke to who explained that they too like me couldn’t find a way to enjoy the YQH samples that they had tried. Considering it all comes down to opinions it’s pointless to argue; we know Bernie is a better canidate then Trump, Honda makes better cars than Ford, wheat bread is better than white, Star Trek is better than Star Wars, oh and oolong is the best type of tea. I suppose I don’t realize that people don’t know me so reading my comments are tough. I’m just some dude drinking tea and spilling thoughts from the top of my head. No expectations at all. However, maybe I should review what I say and how I say it. Either way, I come to Steepster without much rereading or monitoring so that could be what I look into changing next for myself.

Um no. Star Wars > Star Trek.

Data was hands down the best character on tv of all time. The entire human idenity is his character. Now that’s just one element of Star Trek. I suppose I’ll clarify: Star Trek TNG > Star Wars 4, 5, 6, and that recent remake where there is a larger Death Star in it but this time it blows up planets before it’s destroyed. TNG is hands down 110% more intellectually stimulating than Star Wars.Anyone who starts and finishes TNG will have gained an experience that just… It makes life better.

Nope. Best TV character of all time is Bobby Hill.

TNG or TOS or DS9 or VOY > Star Wars

Voyager was not better than pretty much anything, except possibly Enterprise. DS9 was meh. TNG was MIGHTY but still not better than Star Wars, but close. Because Worf.

I have nothing against Star Wars. A good action movie, but Star Trek always intrigued me. I haven’t seen enterprise and am on season 4 of Voyager right now. TNG was my favorite. DS9 was close. What it lacked in “exploration” it made up for delving deeply into spiritual matters on many levels, and different types of ethical questions as other series. VOY and TOS are tied for me so far. To keep things on topic, I like watching Star Trek while drinking tea ;)

The Doctor needs to be everywhere.

Data is just the best. God now I got to go watch The Most Toys again and wonder…

I’m a fan of Star Trek and Star Wars (and Doctor Who), but Stargate: SG-1 will probably always be #1 for me.

I’m with you on the YQH MzPriss. I dunno how people have “buyers remorse” with samples but am pretty sure anyone with cakes could find a new home for them fairly easy. Especially when there are price changes coming and declining inventory. Thanks for your comments and reviews Grill. I learned a lot from you and James and appreciate the time and effort you put into it. While I like some of the YQH line better than others my only regret is that I couldn’t get more… As they say, there is no accounting for taste. peace

@DharmaTea – Teji WAS my fave. Now I’ve had Dingji. I echo your thanks to Grill and James. I would have been so very, very sad if I had never had any of this tea.

Dude, I know exactly how you feel. I grew up in a Southern Baptist household and my best friend, of 14 years now, is gay. He also used to be an active member of my parents church. In fact, we met at this church (lolz how times change). There were many, many times that I had serious conversations with my parents that inevitably devolved into arguments because my parents were incapable of understanding at it’s root that it’s just not a choice. Eventually, things came to a head when their church pastor spoke out one Sunday around the same time the US was legalizing marriage for the LGBT community and started saying things like, “Real Christians will vote against this.” I don’t like people thinking for me, and I sure as hell am not going to sit and listen to some pastor telling me that the person who has willingly been there for me and been the best friend I could ever ask for was going to Hell, solely for being gay. Fuck you, breh. That’s not what my Christ teaches. So I started looking around and I now consider myself part of the Presbyterian Church of USA (PCUSA, not to be confused with the archaic PCA). Their beliefs are more in line with my own, and they consider spirituality and religion to be a very personal journey, to be defined by free-thinking individuals under the tutelage and guidance of the church who focuses around the ministry of Jesus more than some Old Testament verse that is surrounded by controversy and misinformation, even amongst scholarly circles.

Whew! I didn’t mean to blow you up, I just say that to say, if you wanna talk about it, I’m all ears. I’ve mostly retained my faith through the whole ordeal, but it’s definitely caused me to view differently how I integrate my religion and spirituality into my life. :)

don’t worry Andrew, we love you just the way you are! :D

AS Christ drew the symbol in the sand and asked who among you is without sin? I ask you those who are withut sin cast the first stone. Then said “Those that condemned you are not here. I condemn you not”. As the Bible said “Judge not lest ye be judged”. It is to be judged by God not any of us here on earth.
God made us and loves us for who we are. No matter what. Else fore, why would he have sent his son to save us all. Jesus was asked how much do you love them. He said this much an spread out his arms to be nailed and crucified for us.
He loves us all as we are.

I’m sorry you are going through this, LP. I have been surprised and touched by religious people here treating me with kindness and respect. A friend and I parted ways not too long ago because he was always fast to tell me that my ‘lifestyle’ was an abomination to God. I have been told and have told others that God created us in His image so did not create anyone who is imperfect. Thank you LP and thank you, too, mrmopar for being kind, generous, decent, caring, open minded people.

I wouldn’t give up on them. My long experience with conservative religious people is they are likely to change a stance when confronted with someone they love, given time. The key is an issue that is close to home, not just a hypothetical moral dilemma. When one’s own child is gay, that hits home more than someone else’s child. Look at Dick Cheney, if he can become an advocate for gay rights, nobody is a lost cause.

That’s a great point mr mopar

Christ died for everyone! :) there are far worse things out there. And I’ve been guilty of one of them. But Jesus loves me and died for me. Remember this, if god did not care about you, me or anyone, Christ would never been born. Keep your head up! Enjoy the good things of life that’s what god likes. When we do that and care about others. I care about you.

If you need to talk to me, send me a message

I don’t know you and you don’t know me, but your comment struck a chord in me. As a gay female who is, incidentally, an atheist and someone who cut family ties early in life… well, I’m often dumbstruck by the willful ignorance and disrespect that I see people direct at one other as if doing so were a badge of honor. It’s a wonder that anyone has the unmitigated gall to tell others who & how they should love and to pass such harsh judgments upon their character and worth as people is… wow. Just… wow.

That said, it’s always reassuring when I see people such as yourself who, despite what personal dilemmas may come of it, choose tolerance over bigotry. I can’t speak to reconciling theological morals and family dynamics, but I do hope that open minds and open hearts prevail.

@Teazilla The most important part is keeping dialog and not being exclusive with conversations. Why people won’t discuss comes out to what I find to be ridiculous answers… as if they have the plague or something.

@Kirk Nobody should dismiss someone because of their thoughts. If I acted on my thoughts in a way that harmed someone sure, but meerly just saying I believe this or that shouldn’t be enough to put me in a category of people someone can’t talk to.

@mrmopar exactly… and I had thought that the Golden Rule stretched beyond all people as a simple practice, but I continue to learn it doesn’t :(

@whiteantlers I never let the people speak or act for me which I believe causes some disconnect with religion nowadays. People tend to associate the actions of one for the whole group; it’s understandable, I helped a friend work through prejudices that kept her from religion all together because of a tragedy (sister was raped by a pastor on church grounds). This is the same reason that any type of people get prejudged to do or act a certain way which is wrong. Everyone is different and at the least deserves their chance.

@Cwyn I still have a lot in me, but it’s really hard when your mother gets on the phone with your family to tell them that her son (being me) is going to hell… just not the kind of thing I would like to be said around my family because of my thoughts. It’s really awkward at family events now; especially the time I told my mom I was Baha’i and she believes anyone who is non Christian is atheist so everyone kept saying they were praying I’d find God again…

@Shade I hope people can get past private affairs of one another as well so we can communicate without such anger and disgust. It really takes a lot out of someones day to think about the private life of two people who are attracted to the opposite sex and then bash them; it’s as if you’re missing life that can be lived by following a passion instead of tearing another one apart. I don’t get it… I mean, I tell people oolong is the best type of tea and I believe that but if they say otherwise I say cool and then it’s to the next topic.

@All Every year my beliefs change because I encounter new people and learn new ways to view things. As Kahlil Gibran explains things, you really have to travel around the mountain and not just up and down it to figure out the angles. The coolest part about all of this is how much dialog I have with those who drink tea about these matters or I get to speak to those I never would be able to because of the internet.

Thanks for your thoughts all :)

@lquidproust your right! you’ve been so kind to me and i appreciate that. you are a good fellow and friend :)

@liquidproust ive done terrible things in my life and to have people be friends with me. it’s such a blessing.

Kirk we all have done things we are not proud of. It is a learning experience on this world. The Golden Rule will always apply. It can take some people a while too learn it. I know it did me.

I think most of us go through stages where we don’t want to write reviews, etc. but just sit a enjoy a tea. Don’t let some imagined obligation prevent you from just having fun.

Definitely I second Dr Jim.

Yes enjoy it. That is the main reason to have it. If I wrote a review every time I drank a tea my keyboard would need replacing.

Ew, not an appealing description…

Guess you’ll have to have a slice of cheese with the tea. Ha-ha.

Haha, my kid loves plain pasta….yuck!

Mac and Cheese sans cheese… What a horrifying description :-(

http://i.imgur.com/zNfdEis.jpg (contains an obscenity, if you’re not into that)

LOL! Sums up my Monday clinic days perfectly.

Having purchased a couple of cakes of this stuff, you hit the nail on the head. Sweet, but without depth, viscosity, and much energy. Not bland, but on the same spectrum.

I can’t wait to try the Shan Lin Xi from Eco-Cha that LuckyMe is sending me. Can’t get enough of that Green Oolong varietal. If San and Shan are the same thing, different spelling.

I’ve tried this one, Low Country and Passage du Desir and did not care for them. To my tastebuds, the heavy handed flavoring masks low quality tea.

Castalia was interesting to me but I wasn’t in love with it. I actually liked Passage du Desir because it was chocolaty enough for me to not add sweetener.

To think about it, I did get the tea on discount…

I liked Passage du Desir. Very chocolaty and rich, though almost over flavored.

Fenhuang black Teas can be really nice. I’ve had one from CS before.

One of my favourite places for tea. Added to wish list

@xyz, CS? Chawang shop?

Camellia Sinensis in Montreal.