Ancient Arbor Puer tea

Hey guys, currently i am living in Kunming,Yunnan. I have been studying puer tea recently and had chances to savor some of the superior Puer law tea made with ancient Arbor tea trea leaves.I was totally impressed by its uniqueness.
Have you guys tried this kind of tea before? since i might be involved in promotion of ancient arbor tea, let me know if you are also interested

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AllanK said

The problem with Ancient Arbor tea leaves is it is hard to tell when a seller is telling the truth. Anything above 200years is quite rare and should only be bought if you really trust the seller. Anything above 500 years is almost unheard of. There are a few trees out there that are 800 years old but they are an incredible rarity. As sellers can up their price if they claim a tea is from 800 year old trees many just lie about the age of the trees.

Ken said

The joke I like to make about it is, in the current market, anything that looks more like a tree than a bush is labeled a gushu.

i am talking about trees that are around 200 years old. And it is indeed expensive because of the limited anual output. And there are numerous fake Gushu/or ancients teas in the market! But I will visit those mountains myself in one month since i am in yunnan now. So pretty sure that tea quality can be guaranteed.

AllanK said

Where in Yunnan is the origin of this gushu. Even Lao Ban Zhang can be bought for less than $1500. Although I don’t know about Lao Ban Zhang gushu.

AJ said

As a few books (Puer Tea: AC&UC, and Tea Production, LUP, & EM) will tell you (not to mention a couple recent articles on tree-authenticity and controversy), visiting the mountains yourself doesn’t always guarantee the quality.

Aj, I know. what i tried to convey is that I will have a chance to see how tea leaves are picked and how tea is processed. In a way, I can see the whole process involved in tea making, thus i am more confident about the tea quality. Tea samples can be handed out for free trial so that you people can have your own evaluation. I try to reach out to more people to see if they like puer tea from my company

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onjinone said

I would seriously be doubtful if someone was trying to claim anything a few hundred years old. The price points for legitimate gushu is out of this world in China.

When and how would it actually come into the hands of people out of the inner network or with a net worth below a few million (and that’s the low point)?

AllanK said

I guess it depends on what you call Gushu. I think in general anything over two hundred years old is called gushu and I do not believe you have to be a millionaire to afford it. Now if you are talking 1000 year old tree that is so rare that it probably cannot be bought for any price. There was a big thread on here called Transparency in the Tea Industry about Verdant Tea claiming to have tea from 1800 year old trees and they were selling it for $100 for a 100g cake. It was obviously fake but enough people believed them to sell out the tea.

onjinone said

Right, there are a few other factors to take into account too. I was referring to how the prices are getting hiked up by both Chinese collectors and sellers.

Average gushu tea that isn’t very rare can be expensive but definitely not in the millionaire category. Still not cheap though. Either way, vendors do need some sort of connection to get ahold of some decent tea from real gushu.

And yeah, I was aware of the thread and what Verdant Tea was doing. Don’t want to accuse them of anything but I’m sure there may have been a fair dosage of ignorance involved on their part.

yes, for a cake, the price will be about 9000RMB/1500$,But the company now i am working for will offer some samples so that people might get a taste of it.

onjinone said

That’s awesome! Would love to hear your experience :)

AllanK said

How old are the trees that you are charging $1500 a cake?

AllanK said

It seems to me that for $1500 a cake it not only has to be Gushu age but the highest quality tea. Just because a tree is old doesn’t mean the tea from it will be high quality. That depends on other factors other than age.

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Elephantasy said 2 days ago
“i am talking about trees that are around 200 years old.”

200 years old gu shu is not uncommon, depending on the area can be had for less than 1000元per kg.

we have the connections and we had a contract with a village to cover three years‘ tea output

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and if you are interested, you may leave your address in my message box, we will contact you and arrange some samples!

AllanK said

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AllanK said

How true

Hey YS, thx for sharing the post. Are you based in Kunming? I live in kunming.

Yes we are… how long have you lived in Kunming? Are you working there?

yes,i am working, I have been in Kunming for 8 years, but recently started to sip teas

Very cool… how did you manage to not sip tea for 8 years in Kunming??!?! ;-)

lol, the idea struck me i had to taste some tea since i am in YN when coming across the Feng Black tea Shop last year

and can i get your wechat, and maybe we can meet up in Kunming!

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green1 said

If you want to travel to Fujian, you should have a try to the Tie GuanYin, it tastes lightly and hope you will like it.

Green, I think i can’t handle Tie Guanyin because My stomach is too sensitive for Half-fermented tea. I generally drink black tea and puer. Green tea is not my option..

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Apart from the fact that so many vendors lie outright regarding their teas (1600 year old tree tea for 149 pounds per cake, yeah right), tree age seems like a highly questionable parameter to use when selecting teas.

I have yet to see any sort of study which demonstrates that tree age has a linear impact on tea quality. Or any impact at all for that matter. If I am wrong please link me to such studies, but until then I only see anecdotes, feelings and dishonest marketing.

If you are involved in the promotion of yet another tea on the grounds of tree age alone then I would urge you to un-involve yourself.

Hey, Steve. Thanks for the advice. And definitely ancient arbor tea doesn’t necessarily is superior to regular puer tea grown in terrace. But the process of making tea is an essential part involved in tea making. The company that i am working for hire local skilled people for tea-making to guarantee the quality. And samples now are being distributed to see how tea lovers abroad react to them. Another factor determing the price is the scarcity of Arbor tea, and i am 100 percent sure that the tea is from the right treas. if you need a sample, you can leave the address to my inbox, i will follow u now.

AllanK said

I think a variety of factors are more important than tree age, especially the soil and the water that the tea is exposed to. If there is good soil and clean water on a younger tree it will have a better taste than an older tree with bad soil and poor quality water.

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Which company are you working for?

http://www.gylxtea.com/ this is the website, but by now there is no English version.

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we already managed to send samples to Allank in this thread, if you want get some samples, follow me and i will follow you back.

Sqt said

I would be very interested in trying what you have to offer as well.

tperez said

I would love to try your tea

sqt already followed you! you can send me your address through message

Ken said

Me as well please

okie dokie

Rbruce2u said

I would like to try your tea

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TeaLH said

I’d like to taste those teas as well.

ok

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Arby said

I would be interested in tasting your teas.

got it. Followed you back.

you may leave your address in my box so that i can arrange the shipping. THX.

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