Tea Is Hard

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cookies said

Hello fellow FP lover! The learning curve can indeed be expensive! The best advice I have is to always buy samples, and not stock up on huge amounts of anything, even if you think you’ll love that tea forever. So many of us have done that in the beginning and ended up with 6oz of a tea we grew out of. Tastes tend to change quickly, especially in the beginning.
I would recommend going somewhere like What-Cha and picking up a variety of samples. Try a Darjeeling or two, a Dian Hong, Assam, Keemun… roasted oolongs and greener ones, Chinese greens and Japanese greens, and so on. You should get an idea of what you enjoy and would like to explore more.
Also, I would be more than happy to send you some samples of some of my favorites if you’d like.

RoriRants said

Fountain pens! Something I understand! :) Most generous of you! Actually, advice would be great— your favorite Oolongs to try?

cookies said

So many recommendations, where to start…

http://www.taiwanteacrafts.com – Must try. Period. Great prices, and free shipping over $25 when you’re just purchasing sample sizes. My favorites here are the Shibi, Wenshan BaoZhong (all flushes have been amazing), Competition Whenshan Baozhong Spring 2015, Citrus Flower Oolong, and Baguashan Four Seasons oolong. And while you’re there pick up a sample of Yuchi Wild Mountain Black.

http://taiwanoolongs.com – Owned by Scott from Yunnan Sourcing. I have liked everything from here pretty equally, I don’t know if I could narrow down my suggestions. But Scott is great. If you e-mail him with your preferred flavors I’m sure he will have recommendations for you. Rumor has it there will be an all oolong tea club next month…

http://www.mountaintea.com – Large sizes, but great value. The USDA Organic Mountain Oolong is one of my all-time favorite teas. Also highly recommend Four Seasons of Spring, Mountain Oolong Winter, Lishan Spring and Winter. The Imperial Pearl is an amazing more-oxidized oolong.

http://www.greenterraceteas.com/collections/oolong-tea – Definitely try the Four Season Spring and Jin Xuan. But I don’t think you can go wrong with any of their selection.

A nice tie-in. I keep a midori (Lightweight w/ Tomoe River paper) notebook dedicated to tea tasting. Keeping detailed notes (and pasting in some photos) helps me when deciding which teas to purchase, and with comparing flushes of the same teas or similar teas from different companies.

RoriRants said

Holy moly! Thanks for the recommends!! Also, you and I must become good friends. The lightweight Midori insert is one of my favorite things ever. :D

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Oneironaut said

I know what you mean. I started drinking tea in March of last year and I still feel like I’ve barely scraped the surface. There are so many different styles that I want to learn about in-depth and I sometimes find myself shopping around for another order before I’ve received my last one. At least it’s a great journey of discovery, so don’t worry about how long it takes.

RoriRants said

Haha, that’s too funny about the shopping. I might be doing that too… ;)

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Hehe! It’s funny because I thought I had a grip on tea. I was a happy camper. I know what my favorite kind is (oolong), and I’m a simple person (sorta). So when I used to go looking for tea, it was just pleasurable browsing and picking up this or that as it interested me, no fuss, no muss, no stress.
Then my body betrayed me… Chili, spaghetti, onions, etc. have started giving me horrible heartburn. I was popping pepcid ac and zantac because I’m just too stupid to just give up food I like! And along came the Verdant puerh sample – the one I was least interested in, and I read that puerh can help with heartburn, so I tried it… and for me it DOES!! Woohoo!! Seriously soo happy! I LIKE tea, it’s pretty much all I drink! This is awesome right??? So I started looking into puerh.. and yups I totally get your “tea is hard.” Puerh is hell!!! Especially since I think I’m going at it backwards, instead of something I like, that I want to learn more about.. I’m just trying to find something I want to drink. Not that anything that I’ve tried is bad, but it’s not been good, it’s been.. drinkable. UGH! So far I’m not excited about it and I hate that I’m not excited about it, because I like tea that gets me excited! *grins *

mrmopar said

Shou does wonders for me as well. You should try some older shou from YS. Either their brand or Menghai or Haiwan.

RoriRants said

Oof, pu’ehr! So many!! Interesting that it helps with heartburn. I would have said rather the other way round.
It’s a bummer when it’s not exciting, huh? :/

I’ve just placed a YS US order for a few samples of sheng’s that had “mushroom” mentioned, because I “think” that’s the flavor profile, I like? Gotta love being new to something and needing to take stabs in the dark in the beginning, hehe! I tried looking for mushroomy ripes, but the only one that popped up was a brick w/no sample option and since I’m not sure about “mushroom”, I passed on it for now.

If mushroom ends up not being a flavor that floats my boat, I’ll keep your recommendation in mind and get samples of those types in my next order.

Right now I’m drinking some Berylleb stuff.. Song of Chi (AllenK) and 2007 Lao Cha Tuo Old Tea Nubs, and some mini tuo’s from Upton. Because of you, mrmopar, I currently have a collection of pu filled shot glasses/1 oz beer glasses from brew fests (I knew those things would come in handy one day) covered with paper towel squares that have been rubber banded around them on my kitchen counter. Airing them out definitely helps getting rid of the smokey/sweet smell that I dislike.

For some reason, I’m not really liking the first few steeps of Song of Chi… I don’t know if I’m just an oddball and I don’t like the sweetness of it? I prefer the later steeps that seem less sweet and more woody. I think…? Obviously still trying to figure out what my tastebuds want and what puerh will generally deliver to see if they mesh.

mrmopar said

@azurephoenix the pu will be strong with you! The Song is rather sweet. Haiwan shous are a bit lighter in terms of the process and Boyou is stronger. It just depends on how long they allow the process to go. W2T has some nice Bulang maocha and Berylled has a nice Jade leaf maocha. A lot of times aging the way you do does even them out a bit. I rarely drink any shou under 2 years of age to let it settle a bit.
We just have to find your profile. A few productions are blending in some sheng to make it a bit more interesting.

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I find if something is really overwhelming to purchase for the first time, ask the tea seller what you are looking for and price point. Most are pretty good to help you out.

Early on, I would just go to YS and just buy random sample that sounded good. All fails and you don’t like something, usually straight teas have good swap value.

RoriRants said

Random sampling shall commence payday. ;)

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nycoma said

for me it started with stash peppermint tea bags which i really liked, yet i thought nothing of the tea world. so i kept drinking coffee for years and after while i rarely drank tea.. then one day the world opened up and devoured me. im now only a few years into this and am branching more and more.

just try anything really (in samples! or you’ll die!) based on your current knowledge of what you like and choose a method for sampling. such as tea type or seller.

RoriRants said

Thanks :)

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Lion select said

When I took the plunge into artisan loose tea, I was lucky to have Shang Tea in my neighborhood, and spent many visits to their store sitting down to have various types of tea served to me Gonfu Cha style by the very knowledgeable and enthusiastic staff. Finding other tea nerds to meet and share tea with will accelerate your knowledge and experience with tea very quickly.

Beyond that, yeah, there is the sad reality that you’ve just gotta buy lots of tea and look for any deals on samples or shipping where you can. If reading is too dry for you, you can always check out tea videos or online classes.

One thing I will say is experiment a lot and don’t brew your tea the same way every time. Try different water temperatures, amounts of leaf, timing, and brewing vessels. I think that is the best way to learn what tea “should” taste like, as you’ll start to understand what underbrewed and overbrewed tea tastes like, and you’ll pick up on the subtleties (some quite heavenly) or the negative qualities of teas by doing this. Of course, whether a tea is brewed too strong or weak, too hot or too cool, is subjective, but you’ll find what you like, and if you like it, then that’s how it should taste!

I also recommend not sticking with one company to buy all your tea from. Try teas from different companies as well as different countries and regions. That will open up a lot of things for you! I will say another handy thing to know is that most good tea is not expensive. If you see teas claiming to be good that are asking you to drop a lot of money… they are probably curios and collector’s items for the more seasoned folks to speculate over (and are rarely objectively better than affordable teas). At some point of course your curiosity will probably tempt you to try these teas, and you should when you’re ready for that, but there is really no need to be a big spender in your pursuit of great tea.

RoriRants said

Thank you for the suggestions!

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Definitely start by looking for inexpensive samples. Once you have some idea what you like, you can start buying larger sizes. Traveling Tea boxes are great. You really need to watch the discussion board since sign-ups aren’t especially frequent, but I’ve usually been able to try a couple dozen different things with each box.

RoriRants said

Thanks!

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I’m with you! But I tend to like the overwhelming nature of new worlds. I sink deep into them, soak in all the confusion and noise, surface, evaluate, dive in again.

In the software world (which I’m neglecting because I’ve just been reading about tea for 3 weeks straight), folks say “fail early, fail often.”, which although may be problematic for some, is an interesting way to approach things. Iterate, iterate, iterate! But not without reflection. I’m trying to take notes, but also sometimes just ignoring the details and just drinking…paraphrasing Mark Twain, “not letting my education get in the way of my learning”…

There’s a world of great advice in this thread, so I don’t have too much to add. Just wanted to say I’m walking the same path (we all are), so you’re not alone out there!

RoriRants said

Good advice! Thanks, and I’m glad it’s not just me, honestly!

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Psyck said

Tea Is Easy
Tea is among the easiest of drinks to brew.
Take a pinch of tea, add hot water, drink after a couple of minutes.
That is about all you need to do with the vast majority of teas.

The hard part only comes when you want to master tea.
Tea, like coffee/chocolate/wine/whisky/etc. has a large number of types and flavours. As others have suggested, start by slowly sampling the types of teas that you find interesting for now.
Master various brewing methods. Gongfu tea (literally – making tea with skill), as the name suggests, requires a lot of time and patience to perfect. This is the preferred method for oolongs and puerh. Spend time studying the effect of varying various brewing parameters like the amounts of tea/water/temperature/time.

So, while learning all about tea may be a lifetime task, as with most full time hobbies – picking up the basics just enough to enjoy your favorite cuppa will not take too long. It is not particularly expensive either, if you just purchase reasonably priced samples of your favorite teas and brew with minimal teaware.

RoriRants said

Thanks :)

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Lynxiebrat said

My advice is: take your time…try not to let any kind of tea you want to try intimidate you, (I admit puerh did for a loooong while.) Check the places tab at the top of the page put in a country, state, zipcode…you just might find tea stores nearby…as well as being on the lookout as there is often tea at grocery stores, fruit markets, and various ethnic markets.

Lastly, but not least…there are various companies that have free samples (often in return for reviews on here or tea blog.)or relatively cheap.

RoriRants said

Thank you! Great ideas :)

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