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From Dexter3657, still more from that huge box she sent me! Thank you.

This is so funny because I sent Dex some bao zhong-based coconut oolongs (which I think is weird and don’t remember doing honestly; it doesn’t make sense I would given I know she doesn’t like bao zhongs) and the main takeaway was they were predictably too floral/green for her tastes. Meanwhile, I’m a FIEND for coconut oolongs that use a light, floral base. Haven’t met a single one I didn’t slurp up. Anyway, turns out this oolong is not green, it appears on the darker end of the spectrum, so it makes sense Dex likes it. Also explains why I wasn’t nuts for it—I was like, oh, the oolong is too dark tasting for me! Where are my gorgeous fresh green notes that I’ve come to associate with coconut oolong? Haha. We are like Jack Sprat and his wife here, but about the oolong spectrum and how it relates to coconut flavored tea.

That said, the darker oolong does give the finished tea a nuttier, roastier flavor which I think most would welcome. I just found myself missing those fresh green notes though. Now I get it! Knowing is half the battle. Thanks Dex!

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 3 min, 0 sec
Flowery

Do you have a favorite coconut oolong? I’ve never had one and have been wondering where to start.

ifjuly

My favorites are Golden Moon’s Coconut Pouchong (the freshest of the 3 I like best so far, less creamy rich and more like fresh coconut water than cream), American Tea Room’s Coconut Oolong (very creamy and rich, but some of the people I’ve swapped with find it too floral), and Zen Tea’s Coconut Oolong (still creamy and rich like the ATR but a little fresher/zingier like the Golden Moon too…sort of the best of both).

ifjuly

But yeah, if you don’t like green or floral oolongs and prefer the toastier darker end of the spectrum (like Dexter3657!), you probably shouldn’t listen to me. Those 3 are all bao zhong/greener oolong based. You might dig this one if you like darker oolongs.

Flowery

I love the greener oolongs and will definitely start with these three. That probably just saved me a few months and several misguided orders. Thank you!

ifjuly

No prob! I hope you enjoy them. (:

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drank Mandarin Silk by Art of Tea
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Drank oodles of tea last night but didn’t get around to logging ‘cause I was too busy being all WTF DAWN I LOVE THIS SHOW SO OFF THE WALL, ha. None blew me away and none were terrible, so I’m just gonna do brief “I drank this!” backlogs pretty much.

This was ok, but there was that plasticky aftertaste vanilla flavored teas often get, and combined with the floral of the pouchong, ehh. I think I prefer the vanilla teas I’ve tried from The Tea Merchant slightly. But it wasn’t terrible.

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 4 min, 0 sec

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drank All India Blend by Harney & Sons
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Another well balanced, smoother-than-expected-but-still-classic-tea-taste morning blend from Harney. A little more interest here than in the very straightforward, almost bland (but not weak!) Stanley’s Blend, and a pleasure to drink first thing, but again, Harney’s got so many fantastic invigorating and delicious morning teas I don’t need to order this one. I am generally not a fan of Nilgiri so I do appreciate how here it’s helping balance things, a neat trick. Harney does such a consistently bang up job generating the appealing flavor of legacy-style teas while managing to tame the usually inevitable corresponding bitterness, astringency, tannin, bite. Where you still get to taste the good balancing parts of those components but little to none of their potential unpleasantness. I really admire their blending skills.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 4 min, 0 sec

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drank S'mores by Della Terra Teas
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We had this one a while back for afternoon tea and I forgot to log it. The smell and front end of the sip is uncanny in its resemblance to no-frills s’mores—I get everything, the waxy cheap meltable chocolate, graham cracker (yes!), and sugary bag o’ cheap marshmallows. Husband and I were both like “wow, that IS a s’more!” But it turns out I don’t want to drink standard s’more flavor as tea…it includes the pinpointy plastic afterbite of cheap chocolate and Kraft marshmallow, and drinking that is overload. Alas. This is a case where the tea does what it says on the tin (ha) and kudos to DT for that, especially given it’s a rather tricky, odd synthesis of flavors. I just don’t want that particular flavor profile as tea much (see: Cherry Cola and Cake). But yeah, good job Della Terra, and sorry this isn’t for me. Luckily husband likes it enough to finish off the sample.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 0 sec
Chizakura

Yeah, I’ll get that with some teas too. It’ll be a flavor of something I really like, but discover the hard way that I’d really rather not DRINK it xD

Fjellrev

Ha! I loved this at first but after going through a little more of an ounce, the sweetness got to me too. Plastic afterbite is a great description. Definitely some weird undertones now that I think about it.

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drank Caramel by Kusmi Tea
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Steepsters are right; this is by far the best flavored Kusmi I’ve had. The only one I’ve tried so far I’d consider buying again. Still, it’s not blow-my-socks-off great; I’ve a feeling there are other caramel teas I could find I’d like better. But it has a better flavor than most, one that integrates well with the usual gentle tea base. It hit the spot nicely for afternoon tea on this bitterly cold day.

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 4 min, 0 sec
boychik

My favorite among flavored teas

ifjuly

It’s quite nice! I like how Kusmi’s trademark softness works well here.

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drank Stanley's Blend by Harney & Sons
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I was expecting this to be harsh for some reason so the smoothness and lightness took me by surprise. It tastes like a breakfast tea but is oddly light (I mean, there’s thickness from the Assam but the Darj lightens everything considerably) and kind of straightforward; there isn’t any complexity to the flavor, but it’s not a bad flavor…just straight up “classic black tea” taste with the edges sanded off. Better than I was expecting because there’s no bitterness or astringency, didn’t mind drinking it at all, but I wouldn’t restock because it’s also kind of boring, light on interest. Not bad though.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 0 sec
Flowery

Really wishing I had chosen ‘The Darj’ as my alias now. ;)

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And more from Dexter3657 (I should have that put on my logs automatically somehow, the equivalent of letterhead, ha!). Thank you!

Aw man, I should like this because it’s heavy on ubersweet licorice root which is one of my guilty pleasure tisane ingredients (I totally agree with Cavocorax that it reminds one of Stash’s licorice tisanes, which I loved as a teen staying up late doing my homework). That aspect brings to mind Steven Smith’s Bon Bon which I discovered and got a bit fanatical about over holiday break. But the other components, while definitely in the background compared to the super sweet licorice, include chamomile which I tend to be ehhhh about (like I’ll tolerate it in wellness or sleep aid tisanes for its soporific effect but I don’t enjoy it) and lemongrass which for some bizarre reason I actively hate in tea (love it fresh, love cooking with it…yeah, I dunno either; for some reason it reads like bathroom cleaner which leads to some weird urine smell association for me). All together it becomes something sharply, sickly sweet with a weedy (as in dandelions, not pot), musty (good word, MissB!) evocation and a hint of bathroom cleaner. It’s actually not as horrible as that sounds thanks to the crazy sweetness of the licorice root and the cooling quality of the mint—I finished the cup and I do see the way it evokes candy canes but with more oomph from the other less orthodox flavor additions—but you get the idea. Not my thing. Ah well.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 6 min, 0 sec

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Still MOAR from Dexter3657! Whee.

Confession: despite their popularity, if I’m remembering right I’ve never had my socks knocked off by typical Yunnan Black. Over a year ago when I got back into tea and started off with David’s loose leaf blacks I got some of their Yunnan and really didn’t like it (like just about all of those David’s straight teas I tried, it tasted like watery nothing). And when I fell in love with Verdant’s blacks I remember the one that stood out as NOT winning me over immediately was the Yunnan Black. I never think they taste “bad” really; usually I simply don’t taste much, period. They’re SO smooth and (again, to me usually) sweet but in a boring, straightforward way (I get the feeling I tend toward craving a little “rasp” to my tea as a throwback to my early tea drinking days when it was all legacy-style stuff, mostly Indian; Chinese expertise at making ever smoother and sweeter teas is sometimes lost on me as a result).

So that makes me all the more pleased to find I like this one a lot! It still has that characteristic off-the-charts smoothness and is quite sweet, but this time the sweetness comes across as soothing, satisfying, with a depth to it I really enjoy. It’s not actually caramel-like in that there isn’t a toasted or burnt sugar element, but it’s rich and a little creamy in a vaguely related way. It’s best while still pretty hot; as it cools, that watered down quality to the sweetness begins to creep in somehow. While hot, it has a rounded, rich and satisfying quality that reminds me a bit of what makes Dragon Pearls so appealing (though I should note, it never approaches the actual thickness of Dragon Pearls).

My first official Yunnan Black I like a lot (well, unless I’m forgetting one that isn’t labeled/marketed outright as such)! Woo hoo. Capital Tea, you’re winning me over big time.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 0 sec

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I tried this one a while back but never was able to log it, think Steepster might’ve been wonky. Yet another treat from Dexter3657 (seriously, that swap box was ginormous), thanks!

I think I messed it up, just went with my default black tea parameters, the ones I use if I don’t know what to do. Boil/208F, 3 or 4 minutes. It was fine, but I didn’t get the strong flavors people are talking about, alas, and there was, as Dex and others mention, a light-bodied astringency that grew with each sip. I agree with Dex that this teeters between one kind of Chinese-style black and lighter astringent stuff a little more like darjeeling…I do usually find teas that do that fascinating (it’s one of the things that sold my heart to Verdant’s Zhu Rong) but here it was like the flipside of that coin, where I get the aspects of each I don’t love without the components I do—the body read as wimpy, disappointing, and the flavor wasn’t Chinese-sweet enough to make up for the astringency, if that makes any sense. I am going to try a lower temp though, combined possibly with a longer steep time. Intriguing.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 30 sec
Dexter

I normally do this one 95C for about 4-5, but that’s just me. This was actually my favorite of all the blacks I ordered from Capital.
I think they are a good company, and as yyz stated on the tasting note they do sell 20g samples – that’s actually what I did- I ordered a ton of different blacks. I actually think there was more than 20g in the packages – they seemed really generous to me. Glad you are enjoying the ones I sent you. Even if my favorite of them isn’t yours. :))

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Oh my dog, this tea is special. Thank you Dexter3657 for sharing some with me—this is riiiiight up my alley!

The dry leaf smell is wonderful, an intense chocolate aroma. The tea brews up fairly dark and thick, and the taste is deep and unusual; I get loamy soil notes and almost mushroom. Something rich and wet earthy like that. There’s a slight bitterness but also a spicy sweetness to balance it. This kind of reminds me a bit of the complexity of an intense shu pu erh, but less complicated to worry about steeping correctly (easy as pie, Western style 3 min even and hot works very well, much like Laoshan Black) and no possibility of funky aroma, quite the contrary. I love it! Definite winner; I’m thinking it might be the best Assam I’ve ever had. It would make an awesome morning tea on special days you want to spoil your taste buds first thing out of bed. Its complexity and strength remind me a bit of Butiki’s The Black Lotus, crossed with yeah, a sweet, intense pu erh. Great googly moogly it’s good! I would place an order with Capital now just to get more of this for sure.

ETA: yyz who as always is way ahead of me here is spot on about resteeps being lighter and less chocolate-spicy but amping up a honey note. Yum!

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 3 min, 0 sec
yyz

I love this one too the first steep does have a deep flavour resteep it once or twice and honey notes come out.

Dexter

WOW!!! Glad you liked it. To each their own, I didn’t write a tasting note on this one, obviously didn’t leave that type of impression on me. It makes me happy that you found one you really liked :))

ifjuly

It is so awesome! I’m sitting here kind of in shock at how good it is. Thank you SO much! I definitely never would’ve gotten around to trying it on my own. :D

Dexter

IMHO Capital Teas has quality tea at reasonable prices. It’s just a matter of choosing the ones that suit your tastes. Once my stash is under control (next year ?) I would definitely order from them again. :))

looseTman

Good to know Dexter3657!

Dexter

http://www.capitaltea.com/shop/home.php

I said Capital Tea it’s Capital Tea Ltd – there is another Capital Tea out there. That link is the one I’m referring to. :))

ifjuly

Do they not sell sample/smaller than 100g sizes? I can see now why you spread the wealth so generously (and am so grateful)! Hm. I’d love to try more of their stuff, esp. their assams and greens, but 100g is a lot of tea…maybe someday when I’m ready to place an order I’ll post on the boards and see if anyone wants to go in with me on anything. Orrrr just send out a lot in swap boxes.

ifjuly

oh, meant to say too and forgot: I can definitely see that, Dex, about the value for the quality. the stuff you sent me has all been very good quality and looking at the prices now i see they’re yes, super reasonable. great to know!

yyz

They sell 20g sizes as well for most things some were 10g. Click on the product name and it will bring you to a selection screen.

ifjuly

ah, i see it now, thank you! i did a very cursory skim of the pulldown menu expecting the smallest size to be the top option since the rest are larger as they go down the menu. yay! can’t do anything about it anytime soon given my out of control stash, but i am definitely getting more of this and trying some of their other assams and greens when i can tea shop again!

boychik

I should check this out. Not that I need more tea but I would never say no to good Assam

ifjuly

It’s so good! Given we tend to have shared tastes a lot of the time and you like The Black Lotus, I have a feeling you’d dig it, boychik!

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“…you can never know everything about anything, especially something you love.”
-Julia Child on food and cooking, and I think it applies to tea as well!

note: i am currently taking a break from swapping/mail of any kind as money is rather tight. i apologize! i do love to swap but i can’t afford to right now. hopefully in a month things will change.

my cupboard includes any tea i’ve ever owned, including things i’ve sipped down, in order to facilitate swaps with people and keep a record—this way i don’t get redundant samples/order duplicates to try. if you are interested in swapping, i have a separate ever-updated list of teas i actually have on hand i can PM.

i like strong, rich blacks (including some choice old skool CTCs); juicy-fruity flavored green blends; buttery chinese greens; light floral oolongs; flavored oolongs (how sacrilegious!); earl greys; smoky blends; second flush muscatel darjeelings; verdant’s straight oolongs steeped in a gaiwan (mind altering!); anything from laoshan village it seems.

favorite notes include lavender, bergamot, violet, fennel, cardamom, melon, honey, sandalwood, smoke, nuts, roasty/toasty stuff, malt, wood, leather, creamy lemon, steamed rice, artichoke, garden-sweet snap veggies, earth/soil, forest and wet bark, and mushroom.

notes i generally can’t stand (at least in tea) include jasmine, rose (ok in small doses but i often find it overpowering and then everything just smells like musty old lady perfume), astringent apple (and general fruitiness really unless it’s with green tea), and chamomile (unless i’m congested or tired).

my current favorite tea vendors are butiki and harney and sons. i’ve also found some delicious teas and/or had good customer service experiences with the following companies: capital tea ltd., the devotea, verdant, mandala, golden moon, teavivre, lupicia, taiwan tea crafts, yezi tea, den’s tea, the tea merchant, norbu, fauchon paris, tao tea leaf, zen tea, fortnum and mason, townshend’s tea, joy’s teaspoon, new mexico tea company, persimmon tree, teajo teas, whispering pines, della terra, upton imports, mariage freres, samovar, justea, teabox, american tea room, steven smith, steap shoppe, utopia tea, and andrews and dunham damn fine tea. when i’m at the grocery store my “you could do worse” brands include stash, bigelow, tazo, taylors of harrogate, whittard of chelsea, and pg tips. and it’s a fact: you can’t make classic southern sweet tea without luzianne.

top picks, fall 2013

black:
verdant zhu rong yunnan black
verdant laoshan black
thepuriTea hong jing luo (no longer available :( )
thepuriTea red dragon pearl (no longer available :( )
mandala morning sun
golden moon honey orchid
verdant golden fleece
taiwan tea crafts red jade
yezi tea zheng shan xiao zhong “scotch” tea
capital tea borsapori estate assam tgfop1 (spl)
butiki khongea golden tippy assam
butiki giddahapar darjeeling extra special
upton imports fikkal estate
golden moon sinharaja
harney and sons new vithanakande
persimmon tree vintage black
teajo teas black manas
justea kenyan black
harney and sons kangaita op

morning blends:
butiki the black lotus
harney and sons queen catherine
harney and sons eight at the fort
harney and sons big red sun
harney and sons scottish morn
golden moon irish breakfast
harney and sons irish breakfast
utopia tea english breakfast
fortnum and mason breakfast blend (needs milk!)
andrews and dunham double knit blend
steven smith no. 25 morning light
butiki irish cream cheesecake

earl greys and scented afternoon blends:
teajo teas silky earl grey
harney and sons viennese earl grey
upton imports lavender earl grey
american tea room victoria
lupicia earl grey grand classic
harney and sons tower of london
tao tea leaf cream earl grey
zen tea earl grey cream
della terra earl grey creme
upton imports season’s pick earl grey creme vanilla
upton imports baker street afternoon blend
harney and sons russian country
della terra professor grey
verdant earl of anxi

flavored black:
herbal infusions moose tracks
american tea room brioche
steap shoppe cinnamon swirl bread
della terra oatmeal raisin cookie
butiki nutmeg cream
kusmi caramel
david’s tea brazillionaire
lupicia banane chocolat
butiki hello sweetie
fauchon paris raspberry macaron
butiki blueberry purple tea
herbal infusions marshmallow snowflake earl grey
herbal infusions creme brulee chai

pu erh:
mandala loose and luscious lincang 2007 shu/ripe pu erh
mandala special dark 2006 shu/ripe pu erh

oolong:
verdant shui jin gui wuyi oolong
verdant hand-picked early spring tieguanyin
butiki 2003 reserve four season oolong
harney and sons formosa oolong
tea merchant silk dragon
golden moon coconut pouchong
zen tea coconut oolong
american tea room coconut oolong
teavivre taiwan jin xuan milk oolong
butiki flowery pineapple oolong
butiki lychee oolong
lupicia momo oolong supergrade
butiki strawberry oolong
butiki pumpkin milkshake darjeeling oolong
52teas tiramisu oolong

green:
verdant laoshan bilochun green
verdant autumn harvest laoshan green
tao tea leaf hou kui
harney and sons tencha
harney and sons gyokuro
new mexico casablanca
butiki with open eyes
american tea room nirvana
joy’s teaspoon mahalo
den’s tea pineapple sencha
harney and sons tokyo
butiki potato pancakes and applesauce
butiki holiday eggnog and pralines
den’s tea organic genmaicha with matcha
golden moon hojicha

white:
butiki cantaloupe and cream
butiki champagne and rose cream

no caf:
harney and sons soba buckwheat
butiki birthday cake
della terra lemon chiffon
52teas strawberry pie honeybush
butiki mango lassi
joy’s teaspoon italian dream
butiki coconut cream pie rooibos
butiki peppermint patty
persimmon tree mint chocolate chip rooibos
art of tea velvet tea
fusion teas chocolate cake honeybush
american tea room choco-late
steven smith no. 40 bon bon
townshend’s tea dark forest chai
utopia tea decaffeinated earl grey cream

sleep aid/medicinal/therapeutic:
new mexico extra sleepy bear
stash white christmas
verdant ginger sage winter spa blend
samovar turmeric spice
butiki the killer’s vanilla guayusa

coldsteeped wonders:
whispering pines manistee moonrise
harney and sons fruits d’alsace
utopia tea berkshire apple and fig
culinary teas peaches and cream
butiki peach hoppiTea
butiki ruby pie
whispering pines gingerade

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born in seoul, raised in new england and upstate new york, went to college in pittsburgh, currently in memphis with an eye toward philadelphia, portland, or asheville eventually.

i like cats, most beverages really (i also like good freshly roasted coffee, craft beer, wine, whiskey and gin-based cocktails, and soda/soft drinks like agua fresca), art (mainly writing but also visual and music) and critical theory, feminism/genderqueer politics, historiography, statistics, children’s literature and librarianship, travel, and food/cooking. also have recently gotten into weightlifting (mark rippetoe and stumptuous!) and sprint training (HIIT, plyometrics) and i love it.

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