Darjeeling Discussions: What are YOU drinking?

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sherubtse said

Although I have not tasted what you describe as " minerals, ash or char", there is an element that makes FF Darjeelings decidedly different (and delicious, in my opinion). For me, that element is what I would call a “tang”. There are also notes of spice, but it is that tang that makes the difference. These teas are one of my favourite types of tea — right up there with a nice fuka.

Best wishes,
sherubtse

Anlina said

Hmm, I wonder if the tang and spice are what I’m tasting. Though I do feel like I’ve encountered the tang and it’s different from what I’m thinking of…

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Excelsior said

Of all the years I have been drinking Dajerlings, I have never experienced the ash, char, or the mineral taste you mention. I’ve been drinking 1st, 2nd, and Autumn flush Darjeelings for quite some time. Perhaps you may want contact Tealux about your comment/observations and see what they say.

Anlina said

I’ve noticed this in most of the Darjeelings I’ve tasted, from a variety of different companies and different estates:

Margaret’s Hope Muscatel Darjeeling Second Flush by Tealux
Darjeeling 2nd Flush Castleton SFTGFOP1 Muscatel Black by What-Cha
Thurbo (Autumn) Darjeeling Black Tea by Teabox
Poobong High Mountain (Summer) Darjeeling Oolong Tea by Teabox
Margaret’s Hope First Flush Darjeeling by Tealux
Darjeeling Autumn Flush Jungpana Black by What-Cha
Margaret’s Hope – TGFOP by Metropolitan Tea Company

Now I’m really curious if anyone else tastes these notes but identifies them as something different…

80-85C for short steeps should be okay for Darjeelings should it not?

sherubtse said

You can brew them at whichever temperature you wish, of course. Let your taste buds determine which is the best temp. for you. (Usually, though, they are brewed with hotter water [90 deg. or above].)

Best wishes,
sherubtse

Excelsior said

Only going back to 2010, the teas I have purchased and tried from Mariage Freres are:

Margaret’s Hope SF&FF 2010, FF2011, FF2012, FF2013, FF2014
Margaret’s Hope Suprere FF2014
Castleton SF&FF 2010, SF&FF2011, FF&AF2012, FF 2013, FF2014
Jungpana SF2010, FF2011, FF2012, FF2013
Moondakotee FF2010, FF2012, FF2013, FF2014
Bloomfield FF2010, FF2011, FF2012, FF2013, FF2014
Ambootia SF&FF2010, FF2011, FF2012, FF2013, FF2014
Happy Valley FF2012, FF2013, FF2014
Namring FF2010, FF2011, FF2012
Namring Upper FF2010, FF2011, FF2012
Namring Poomong FF2013, FF2014
Sivitar FF2012
North Tukvar FF2010, FF2014
Chamling FF2014
Turzum FF2012, FF2013, FF2014
Arya FF2012, FF2013, FF2014
Nurbong FF2012
Puttabong FF2012, FF2014
Singbulli FF2014
Chong Tong FF2014
Orange Valley FF Unspecified
Bannockburn Unspecified
Gielle Unspecified
Springside Unspecified
Imperial Blend Undspecified
Queen Victoria Blend SF Blend 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Princeton Blend FF Blend 2010

Also 2 Darjeelings from Upton, 1 from Harrod, 1 from Tea Trekker, 10 from Golden Tips, and 6 from Thunderbolt.

I have not had a Darjeeling with the tastes you have described. I agree with sherubtse. Darjeelings should be steeped with hot water 90 degrees or above.

Anlina said

Wow, that’s quite a list.

I will try steeping my Darjeelings at 90C and see what results I get.

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I just have the Glenburn Estate from Butiki Teas.

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Excelsior said

I’ll have to disagree regarding astringency. There were some exeptions but almost all of the Mariage Freres Darjeelings I listed in the previous post are very light in astringency rounding out the flavor of a good cup of a Darjeeling tea. The only problem with Spring Darjeelings is they are extremely temperamental and sensitive to steeping parameters. Thus many would say FF Darjeelings are too light, dull, and if the the steepings are prolonged, too astringent.

IMHO, the FF Arya and FF Puttabong were the winners in 2014 for the teas I prefer. Lightly complex in taste, a slight hint of astringency, yet a very full flavored Darjeeling. For fruity tasting Darjeeling, then the FF Margaret’s Hope and FF Margaret’s Hope Supreme would top the list. There is one tea I have not forgotten which was the very best Darjeeling I’ve ever tasted. The FF 2012 Namring DJ1. It hit all the notes of flavor/taste a Darjeeling should have, a straight refined taste yet still complex in its nature, a hint of astringency, and a wonderfully delicate floral aroma.

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Excelsior said

I ran out of the Namring way back during the beginning of 2013. Mariage will usually carry Vintage Quality Castleton for about one year, but where all the other excess stock of Darjeelings go is a mystery.

They buy enough tea of each flush so they have tea to sell for well over a year. But when the new years teas come in, the previous years tea goes somewhere. Maybe for their flavored teas? Maybe to other retailers? I’ve asked and got differing answers.

I usually steep Spring Darjeelings at 195F. I believe Mariage takes the time to taste numerous cups of each and every Darjeeling. Because even in the same flush from varying estates, Mariage will suggest steeping times anywhere from 2 minutes to 5 minutes with the temperature at 90C(194F) or 95C(203F). I usually start with their suggestion and brew the tea according to my tastes.

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