Price increase questions

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I agree with separating shipping from the price of the tea, in response to this concern: “My only concern is that this will strongly affect the folks who just want to buy one pouch of the current week’s tea. Even if I cut the price to $7.99 and charged the $2.32 in postage that I would have to pay, it would send the cost of one pouch over $10.”

Although in this case it ends up being slightly more, in the long term I think it would encourage people to buy more – for example, Now I can buy multiple pouches for 7.99, know the price of the tea is staying the same, but if I had a solid shipping cost, I wouldn’t be afraid to pay more for more tea. That probably doesn’t make sense at all,

but I feel like shipping prices will never go down really, if they keep going up something will have to change, so maybe thinking farther into the future and seeing what changes you can make that you won’t have to change again in a year – what’s easier for you and the customers in the long run.

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As a customer who’s had to start ordering from overseas, I would prefer the cost of US shipping taken out of the tea price. UK customs charges fees on any package over $25 coming into the country from outside the European Union. At $9 per bag, that means I can only order 2 teas at a time without the post office holding my package for ransom. I don’t know how much each bag of tea would cost without US shipping built in, but I thought you might like to know what your international customers have to consider.

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So, my latest thought is that perhaps I will just absorb the new price increase and instead ask for a minimum purchase of $10.

I was wondering if such a policy would have a negative impact on anyone?

I’m not sure if I would want that option, personally. What I love about 52Teas is that if the weekly blend looks tasty, then I can just pop it in my cart and pay for that blend. I don’t want to have to buy additional teas that I likely won’t drink just to meet the minimum purchase. On the other hand, over $10 for a single 1.5 oz pouch would be too much for me to spend.

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Uniquity said

I’m going to be up-front and say that I no longer shop at 52Teas and have not in about 1.5 years but my $0.02 is to reduce the current price and add on an accurate shipping charge for all orders. Part of my decision to stop buying from Frank was because of the price of the tea – $8.99 is too much for 1.5 ounce of blended tea FOR ME. On top of that I am in Canada and the USPS rates are so high that the tea would be closer to $10 an ounce if I only got one or two.

Where to cut costs in this situation really depends on what market you’re most concerned about. I imagine the bulk of your profits come from the US and you should do what is best for your main audience, but it feels to me as though the international orders take a bit of a hit to help keep the in-country orders with free shipping. That may be costing you some international business but increasing US sales, so you don’t want to risk upsetting the balance too much. Unless you stopped doing international orders.

The bottom line is that you need to make money, and one way or another someone will be unhappy BUT hopefully at the end you will have more happy customers than otherwise. I think as long as you’re up front with your reasons people will appreciate your honesty and hopefully continue to buy your tea.

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Maybe have a minimum of $10 for free shipping. This would encourage people to group their orders together more, rather than buy something this week, and something else next week… which would bring your shipping costs down a bit.

If someone wanted an $8.99 tea, they would likely tack on a $2.99 tea to make the free shipping minimum.

To make a flat minimum with no orders under $10 might not be the greatest idea as there may be a few willing to pay for shipping on a $2.99 tea if they just want to try one of your iced tea blends. This probably wouldn’t effect many, but if you start running weekly specials on the iced tea blends like you have the hot tea blends, some won’t want to spend $10 a week to get their hands on the special in case it were to go fast and not be available the next week. Just a thought for future possibilities… I don’t know if you did that last summer or not.

moraiwe said

I actually think this is a fantastic idea! I know I’d be one of those people that would add on an iced tea to hit the threshold because I’d rather have something tangible than shipping. It’s a good compromise of absorbing costs + helping out with shipping.

Pyroxy select said

I like this option, actually, as I’m the type to toss in an extra tea (either something I like or would like to try) in order to make it over that threshold for free shipping.

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SimplyJenW said

I am all for separating the shipping cost from the tea. I guess I like transparency. The old way definitely discourages buying of multiple pouches. For example, let’s say shipping is about $2 per pouch. If I buy three pouches, does adding 5 ounces more of weight really translate to triple the cost of shipping?

I understand what you’re saying SimplyJenW. By charging nothing for shipping and absorbing the cost of it, are we actually paying more than the actual cost he would want for the tea because of the worked in shipping costs-if he accounts that most will only buy 1 the price goes up for all. Good question. Only he can see what the costs work out to be per ounce/pouch and how that translates to the consumer. We don’t know what he is allotting per pouch for shipping costs. Someone that buys multiples may save him $, and ones that buy singles may cost him.

I completely agree. This discrepancy has really bothered me in the past when I’ve bought a large amount of tea at once.

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The fact that US patrons get free shipping and I as a Canadian have to pay, really rankles me. Even if it makes sense to your business, and creates more profit from your US customers, I am sure that it turns off many Canadians as well. Perception of fairness is critical.
If you don’t mind alienating a large portion of your potential customer pool, then it makes sense to just keep things the way they are with a minimum purchase of $10.
You have pretty much lost me as a customer for the moment, despite the fact that you occasionally reblend certain teas that I absolutely love. If you started charging US customers part of the shipping, and made things more equal, I’d be much more likely to one day place another order.
Anyhow, I wish you luck.

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I know I have it lucky, as I’m in the US and don’t have to pay for shipping. That being said, I would have a problem with a minimum of $10 in ordering. Your business model is centered around the weekly tea, and if I wait until there are 2 teas that I want to buy, then the likelihood that one will be sold out by the time I am ready to order is pretty high.

I consider the price point of your tea to be perfect for me…sure, I could pay less for the same amount of tea somewhere else, but your flavors are what does it for me. I don’t know how you come up with all the flavors, but I did take the opportunity to buy 2 teas at one time during your re-blend weekend at the beginning of the month.

I don’t buy tea in any sort of large quantity, so even the size of your tea pouches is fine with me. I just kind of wish that it was easier to get the stuff I love, because I hesitated to drink my Lemon Meringue Chai (until I got the email about the re-blend) because I didn’t think I’d be able to get more.

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Gene said

I’ve developed the habit of making one or two fairly large orders ($50-$70) per year, and i tend to purchase those from companies that offer free shipping with a minimum of $50-$60.

The shipping costs, frankly, are the reason I developed this habit, and it’s worked for me. Also, as i’m not spending a few dollars here and a few there through the year, I can keep a lid on my tea budget, and not overspend.

Hope this is helpful in some way

Gene

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Okay, I’m late to the ballgame, but here’s my 2 cents anyway. :P

I feel like this is a harder decision because of your business model of releasing one new blend every week, which is almost always a limited edition and not available in the future. I’ve missed out on some really cool blends in the past because sometimes they sell out in less than 24 hours. So, I feel a lot of pressure to buy a tea I want THE SECOND I read your weekly newsletter. I don’t have the luxury of waiting for a couple blends to come out that I’m interested in purchasing because chances are, I’ve only got that one shot to get my hands on it. Therefore, I really appreciate the free shipping. It definitely helps justify the cost to me when I’m impulse buying like that (usually with very little thought to how much money I can responsibly spend on tea that given month).

But would my having to pay for shipping really deter me from buying your tea? Probably not. I think the final total matters a lot more than the breakdown. I have been disappointed in the past when I’ve spent $8.99 on 1 ounce of tea. As others have said, this seems pretty steep. If I get 2 ounces for $8.99, that’s a much more justifiable/reasonable purchase. Sometimes I’m not sure why you sell such large quantity differences for the same price (despite the obvious reason that some leaves are larger than others, so you’re basically trying to fit as much tea as you can into one pouch). Perhaps adding some transparency here will help with sales. When you use a more expensive base and charge us $14.99 for it, I don’t mind because I KNOW it’s a more expensive/higher quality base. Your transparency closes the sale.

It’s clearly not your fault that the U.S. Postal Service has decided to charge more. And it makes sense that the customer would have to pay for this increase. At the same time, I wonder if there’s a way to lower your overhead to absorb the cost (a win-win for everyone). USPS offers flat rate shipping. Maybe you can use that to your advantage more often? If you can’t afford to offer free shipping on Tea of the Week plans, then maybe cut that program so that you can use flat rate shipping boxes for the Tea of the Month shipments.

It’s really nice that you’ve absorbed the price increase to date. But it makes me feel bad that your business is taking a hit. If USPS rates went up 25 cents, then I see no problem with you raising the price by 25 cents (or half that if you want to be nice and absorb some of the cost). It’s perfectly reasonable. How can anyone fault you for that? But taking this opportunity to raise the price by $1 (as suggested earlier) seems greedy and not genuine. I vote for transparency.

Dustin said

I agree that the business model does make it harder to purchase more tea in one go. If there was more to choose from, there would be a larger chance that I’d find something else I wanted, but I don’t know if it is feasible for you to keep more in stock at any given time.
You could still offer free shipping once a minimum purchase has been met, but charge shipping for orders below that. Teavana has a $50 minimum for free shipping, so does David’s. Butiki is $75, Lupica is $60, Verdant is $49, Zhi is $75, Red Leaf is $47, Teavivre is $30, Adiago is $49, Simpson & Vail is $50. Seems like a pretty common and reasonable practice to have a minimum for free shipping.

Definitely. I was driving home from work today and thinking about this again when I had a new idea. What if there was a Reserve button in addition to a Ship Now button? Personally, I don’t mind waiting a little longer to receive my teas because I have soooo much. I’d be content knowing that the tea was set aside for me. Then I could buy a couple pouches over a couple weeks and everything could be shipped in one flat rate box at the end of the month. It’s kind of similar to the Tea of the Month plan with the exception that I get to pick which teas are included/excluded. And it doesn’t have to be done on a monthly basis. I could choose to request my reserved teas be shipped any time. Maybe it’s not feasible, but I think it’s a cool idea.

Lala said

I like the idea of the reserve button. But I think there would need to be a way to stop people from reserving things and then not ever completing the purchase.

Lynxiebrat said

I like the reserve button idea, though it might work out better if there was a time limit, like say a month, I would be more inclined to buy 2-3 at a time and would have alot more availability to do just that if a tea I really wanted I could reserve it, and like an email reminder to someone who has reserved a bag and the month (Or whatever length of time available for reserve.) is almost up and they should make their purchase when they still have a chance.

I hope this post makes sense:)

I imagine the reserve option could work well if you had to pay for the tea in advance.

Dustin said

I think for a reserve option to work, you would have to complete the purchase and pay for it to be set aside for someone. When you decide to have your reserved items shipped, then shipping charges are calculated and paid for.

Oh absolutely, choosing reserve would still require payment just like when you purchase normally. The only difference would be that with clicking reserve, it wouldn’t be shipped right away. That was the idea anyway. Glad to hear it makes sense and people like it. :)

The reserve option sounds great, but the thing that crossed my mind as I read it (as a former business owner who utilized paypal as my main payment option), paypal charges for each individual purchase, and while the amount of the paypal fee wouldn’t be excessive, it is still an additional expense that is to be considered from a profitable business perspective.

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